So I was reading the thread on union and I thought I would pose a question to the collective.
Is it possible that the point is not for us to wind up together? Are we really meant to be together? If that was the point wouldn’t the whole journey be made easier?
How many people must go through something like this and quit, without even knowing what it was they were being faced with? It was just sheer luck I found my spiritual awakening and then this community after meeting my twin. How many people must experience that first separation and just think “fuck this I’m out!”
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I did see a trend that kept popping up of people sayings things like “not all twin flames are meant to be together” but when it came to explaining why they thought this it was just something like a list of different soul contract types.
It’s like me saying not every fruit is supposed to be eaten because a Ford Volvo is different from a crocodile.
This is why people should understand the difference in twin flames vs soulmates and what a karmic is. They are not just other words for twin flames, but people on TikTok or whatever keep using them that way. That’s going to train Google and ChatGPT to use them the same way… and the cycle will continue.
But that’s a rant for another thread.
On the actual topic, the real answer is nobody knows for sure. Anyone who claims to know is claiming to have access to information that nobody else does. Sure, that’s possible, but it’s more likely they’re just speaking from ego.
What we can say is that what we do know about the twin flame journey is from everything we see in our own experiences and that of the wider collective coming together in places like this… it does look like we’re meant to be together.
But that doesn’t always guarantee the outcome. In fact, the statistics suggest that most people don’t reach union, but the journey plays out over multiple lifetimes, so I’d say it’s safe to say that you’re meant to at least have the opportunity to be together.
You’re asking the question that splits this entire community down the middle. Or at least causes an argument with some.
Whether they are meant to be together? I (personally) believe they are meant to be in this lifetime, but that might not mean what you expect it to mean.
The “teachers” (using that term lightly) who guarantee union tend to be selling expensive programs. The ones who emphasize awakening over outcome usually aren’t. That tells you something about incentives and a lot about honesty.
The journey is unique, but what IS consistent across everyone who goes through it? The awakening part. The mirror function. The shadow work. The self-love development. Whether people end up together or not, those things happen.
And you’ll not find a single instance of twin flames who are together where that hasn’t happened. Or, if you do, it’s been a week and they’re headed for separation again.
What if the question isn’t whether you’re “supposed” to be together, but whether you’re willing to do the work regardless of outcome? Because that’s what actually separates people who benefit from this experience versus those who get trapped in obsessive pursuit or walk away bitter.
The difficulty isn’t a bug. For many people, it’s the entire point.
Your point about people quitting without knowing what they’re facing? That’s incredibly common. More than the community wants to admit.
The harsh harshharsh truth is that a large % of the people who are part of the community today will probably have given up by this time next year. They’ll end up with a karmic who is trying to help them prepare, but they’ll get stuck. Maybe they will have done enough work to wind up with a soulmate instead.
In some cases (and it seems to be growing), people stay single and never really have a true relationship. Not something I would wish on anyone.
Emotional exhaustion, practical obstacles, loss of faith in divine timing. All valid reasons. I understand why someone would give up and the root cause all boils down to not knowing what the twin flame journey really is.
I think we’re supposed to be together, but I don’t think it is guaranteed to happen this time around. If the goal was guaranteed physical union in every lifetime you meet, yeah, you’d think it would be easier. But if the goal is accelerated spiritual evolution through the most intense mirror possible? Then the difficulty makes perfect sense.
I do believe that if you’re fortunate enough to meet your twin flame in this lifetime, then you do owe it to yourself to try.
The “if it was meant to be it would be easier” logic assumes the universe optimizes for our comfort rather than our growth.
You’ve heard the cliche “If something is worth doing it’s worth doing right” I assume? Same idea here. Sometimes the hardest things are exactly what we need.
Look at what actually happens on this path regardless of outcome: people confront their deepest wounds, develop unprecedented self-love, heal childhood trauma, expand their consciousness, learn unconditional love starting with themselves. Those outcomes have value whether union manifests or not.
We’re supposed to be together. I do agree with that. I also think that the journey is not for the faint of heart. The honest reality is most people will give up before reaching union and that’s exactly why so many people are in unhappy relationships or alone.
Even people who don’t have a twin flame get stuck in unhappy situations because they’re not ready to do what they need to do. This modern-day 3D world creates such an incredible trap that people get comfortable in because they can hide themselves in distractions and avoid any kind of accountability. That’s probably a whole other rant.
Yes, I think you’re supposed to be with your twin. I think it is eventually inevitable. I don’t think actually telling people that is a good idea unless they’re ready to hear the whole truth, however.
Trigger warning: You will (in one lifetime) reach union. I believe this is a promise. If you want it to be in this lifetime, you are going to have to work on it. Harder than you have ever worked on anything.
You know what? I think you’re asking the right questions.
We talk about the surrender stage but this is pretty much the same idea. We have to surrender to the journey and give up on the idea of waiting for them to figure it out and stop running.
What if the split itself has meaning? Two souls on different paths, learning different things, seeing from different angles. We’re not just living one life anymore; we’re living two. The expansion is exponential. You’re drawn to them because they are you, experiencing reality from another vantage point.
Or maybe there isn’t any point at all. Maybe the only thing that matters is that our higher selves are already connected, and our poor 3D selves don’t even factor into anything on the grand scheme of things.
I know people are going to hate hearing that because we don’t want to think that our consciousness doesn’t matter, but it might be the case. Who knows.
My personal answer to the question of whether twin flames are meant to be together isn’t an outright “yes” or “no”. My answer is another question. What is the PURPOSE?
If we are meant to go through certain events and experiences in order to learn lessons and grow/evolve as individuals in this lifetime, then it stands to reason that some of them will need to be undergone alone, along side your twin, or with other soulmates (be they karmics or traditional) in order to achieve a comrehensive life experience.
So I will circle back to my question. What purpose does being together with your twin flame serve? What purpose does not being with them serve?
The answers are nearly always complex and often don’t come right away.
But in the words of one of my all time favourite fictional characters:
In time, all truths will be revealed. As you continue to view challenges and failures as learning opportunities, you will begin to see the beauty and humor of it all. It might be hard, but I know you can do it! - Joshua Graham
All IMO, but…Viewing your twin as separate from you is a focus on duality, which opposes the main intent of the journey, which is self-wholeness and oneness. I believe this lends to the differing opinions because;
A) YES, because your twin is YOU eventually your twin’s energy merges with yours to become “one” and part of the aforementioned self-wholeness/oneness. This includes eventual physical union as a natural repercussion of that energetic union.
B) but NO, focusing on JUST the physical union (which is natural for us as duality is just part of living in the Matrix) is focusing on that duality, which creates oppositional energy, slowing down or preventing the full energetic twin merging.
So in a way, both sides are correct. It just depends on where you’re focused.
When something’s this hard, it makes sense to wonder if you’re even supposed to be together. I can see why people question it.
I think you are meant to be together. The challenging phase doesn’t mean you’re on the wrong path. Both of you probably need to go through some growth first. This isn’t just about two people finding their way back to each other. The twin flame path is bigger than just a relationship and that means they go through things differently than normal people dating.
That’s why it takes so long and feels impossible sometimes. The difficulty means the transformation is massive - for you individually and for the collective consciousness. You’re healing your own wounds and ancestral/collective relationship patterns too.
The hard parts don’t mean you’re on the wrong path. When I was in my darkest separation phase, I kept asking the same question you are.
Trust the process. Trust the divine timing of spirit. Trust in the journey and in the work. There will be more incarnations, more chances and you are never truly separated from your twin.
Look, not every twin flame connection ends up in physical union this lifetime. Sometimes the separation phase just continues, and you have to decide what to do with that. The mirror work keeps happening either way. I’ve seen people wait around for years and just end up stuck. Dating other people during separation might actually help you figure out what you really want.
You’re still connected energetically, so putting your life on hold doesn’t really make sense.
